New Rules For Graduation

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The State Board of Education has unanimously voted to change the requirements for Alabama's high school diploma.
Published: Thu, May 08, 2008 - 11:36 am
Last Updated: Thu, May 08, 2008 - 10:09 pm
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - The State Board of Education has
unanimously voted to change the requirements for Alabama's high
school diploma.
The board also passed an emergency rule amendment to allow
seniors who have not passed all five sections of the high school
exit exam to graduate this year.
The votes drew shouts and applause from the audience at the
Thursday meeting where several parents spoke and told of their
children's' struggle to pass some parts of the exam.
The changes would become mandatory for all school systems in the
2008-09 school year, but some could start on a voluntary basis this
fall.
The biggest change automatically enrolls all students for the
state's Advanced Diploma and gives parents the choice of opting
their children out to get the Basic Diploma.
Currently all students get the Basic Diploma unless they sign up
for the advanced track.

You can read the proposal that was approved. Just click here.

For more information on the Alabama Graduation Exam, click here.

whether you get the basic, advanced, or honors diploma, all 3 are worthless. i was in honors making As and Bs in high school when halfway through my sophomore year i woke up and dropped to basic to make it easier on myself b/c i figured out IT DIDNT MATTER which diploma i got. now, im graduating from college in december, making my resume, and no where on there do I mention a high school diploma b/c its meaningless.

Posted by kctenac16 on 05/09/08 - 2:20 pm • Report Abuse.   

i also wonder if the drop out rate will decrease if children are challenged more, through the Advanced Diploma. How many kids have dropped out of school, because they were bored, or goofed off and failed because they were bored? Why not set our expectations of our kids high?

It also concerns me, that some of the posters that brag about the graduation exam, are writing functionally illiterate sentences. Perhaps they were typing too fast and did not realize. If though, the end result of a “graduation exam” is to pass a test, but not be able to write a sentence, then perhaps it has worked. I personally think we need to give the classrooms back to the TEACHERS and not to the political system-the State Department, Barton, etc. JMHO

Posted by rmseek1234 on 05/09/08 - 1:11 pm • Report Abuse.   

I agree with working4u that a high school diploma in and of itself will not prepare you for todays world. Sometimes, even college doesn’t do that. I think the Advanced Diploma is a great way to motivate more kids to pursue advanced education. The coursework is college prep and prepares them for taking the ACT/SAT and for life after high school.

There are alot of good points on this thread. We do need to encourage our kids and help them excel. We don’t need to hand them a free ticket-earn your diploma. But what happened to the days of teachers giving final exams? I think we need to rethink some of the standardized tests. Perhaps the kids are not passing them, because what is on them was not taught. These tests are developed by pencil pushers behind desks, that have little or no actual classroom experience. I would be interested to know if the drop out rate increased since the advent of graduation exams. continued.....

Posted by rmseek1234 on 05/09/08 - 1:06 pm • Report Abuse.   

I do not understand what all of the confusion is about. Twenty five years ago I could understand all of the contoversy over this new rule . Who cares what weighs on a High School Diploma today? If you plan on getting a College Degree you are going to have to pass the entry exams. No shortcuts. No exceptions. If you emphasis to your child that a High School Diploma alone will allow them to make a decent paycheck you might as well expect that child to live at home for a long time. Wake up parents this is not the 70sor 80s. In todays world a normal education is not a High School Diploma. Well, it is if you do not intend on paying rent/mortgage, untilities, food, car note, savings or decide to have children. If you want to literally be poor for your entire adult life, just stop at that High School Education. Basic Diploma, Advanced Diploma, unless you futhur your education in a technical field or get your College Degree you will struggle all through life and end up with nothing.

Posted by working4u on 05/09/08 - 11:38 am • Report Abuse.   

With all the teachers Mobile County has fired now they will have to make the test easier.

Posted by asda on 05/09/08 - 9:53 am • Report Abuse.   

I really do not understand their way of thinking. If you can not pass a test and have the oppurtunity to take the test more than once and then are still unable to pass, then why should they get away with passing at all. I know a student at MGM that does not have all the required credits needed for graduation but is still being allowed to walk. She told me last summer that after graduation she will go to summer school to make up the credits she needs. Now correct me if I’m wrong but if she and her parents knew last summer that she was lacking credits then why was she not required by the school last summer to make up the credits in summer school or required to go to night school instead of waiting until after graduation to make up anything. I mean really this is unreal these are credits she missed from ninth or tenth grade.  Come on either you earn it or you don’t. Why just give it to them, make them work for it. They are suppost to go to school to learn. What is this teaching them!!

Posted by chip68 on 05/09/08 - 9:17 am • Report Abuse.   

Yes they do need to rethink this rule.. ... What is that saying to our kids?????? Its ok to slack off you will still get to graduate!!

Posted by SumOneILove on 05/09/08 - 9:03 am • Report Abuse.   

Has the school gotten this lax? That they dont care anymore what is it ? Well I see where are the cutt backs are coming in now I support it .. If they dont have to teach the kids the exit exam then I guess it will save us some tax dollars? What do you think ?You know I had to take and PASS all my parts to the exit exam and Iam proud of it ! But its not fair to the classes of 01-08 that had to take and pass theirs just to walk with the class . I saw many kids that didnt get this chance . They failed parts that now dont even have to be taken . Now you wouldnt like that would you ? They got certificates that say they compleated 12 yrs of school does employers take those now instead of diplomas? I dont think so. You know they say the kids wont use this after school .. Well I didnt use them either but I had to pass them ! Iam a proud stay at home mom but I had to take and pass mine to graduate ! There are many that didnt get this chance ! 
Thanks Beth

Posted by KEVIN_BETHYOUNG on 05/09/08 - 9:00 am • Report Abuse.   

The children were not called “Dumb”. The action taken by the Alabama Board of Education will lower the education standards.  There are a lot of graduates working in businesses who can’t make change properly if they lose power to their cash register.  They are not able to figure math problems with just a pencil and a piece of paper.

We should reward the children who have worked so hard and really earned their diploma.  The tests are given several times.  The children who need extra help on certain portions of the exam should get the help that they need. It is a very exhilarating feeling for both student and teacher when you witness their eyes light up when they finally understand something with which they have been having problems.  They are so excited that they want to continue with the lessons just to show you that they can do it.

When a child is given assistance, praised for their good work and not made to feel inadequate, they will excel.

Posted by Crystal Teeny on 05/09/08 - 8:54 am • Report Abuse.   

you dont get an education by making the test easy,life is not easy,if you just hand them a diploma they have learned nothing,what a leader.the majority passed by hard work now they want to give the ones who did not study a diploma,how is that going to help them and how do you think the students feel that worked hard all these years.way to go mobile you should put out a lot of not so smart students from now on.duh.

Posted by ronald t on 05/09/08 - 3:13 am • Report Abuse.   

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