School Bibles Upset

By Associated Press
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New Orleans judge deems school Bible giveaways unconstitutional. School Bibles Upset
Published: Wed, April 23, 2008 - 3:22 am Last Updated: Wed, April 23, 2008 - 3:29 am

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - A school district in Louisiana plans to appeal a federal judge's order that it stop allowing in-school Bible giveaways. The judge in New Orleans says the giveaways amount to school board promotion of Christianity, in violation of the separation of church and state. The Bibles were being given away by the Gideons International who'd set up a table outside the principal's office at a middle school. The principal e-mailed teachers, stressing that students didn't have to take one. But the ACLU filed a lawsuit for a family whose daughter said she felt pressured into taking a Bible even though she doesn't believe in God. The judge wrote that even procedures upheld as neutral for secondary school students might be out of bounds for "an impressionable young elementary-age child." (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)


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My comment has nothing to do with what thomas jefferson said 200+ years ago.  A lot has changed since then.  The problem America is facing today is what made this a great nation to begin with, we are a big melting pot.  We have to many different cultures in our country to allow one culture to present things to children and not allow another. thats why none are allowed at all. if it were, our schools would be a mad house with all kinds of different religions recruiting your children.

It really doesnt matter what was said by our founding fathers 200+ years ago, the world has changed dramatically since then.  They were dealing with a very small population of mostly people with their same views, not almost 400 million with many having opposite views of the other.

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“Separation of church and state” is a term coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury (Connecticut) Baptists.  The church at Danbury was apprehensive of the new government that had been erected and were wary that they might encounter a situation here as they had with George III and the Church of England before.  Jefferson was reassuring them that the GOVERNMENT would not interfere with their FAITH, not telling them that their faith had no place in government.  \

Learn TRUE and ACCURATE history folks and all this will clear up in your mind.

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Peach & KC,

There is NO law of separation of church and state.  You have fallen for the myth that such a law exists because it is perpetuated by the major media.  What DOES exist is the first amendment to the Contitution which states:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.“

I don’t think that it’s going out on a limb to say that giving out Bibles is NOT the same process as MAKING a federal law (which is is the subject of Article I. of the Constitution).  If that WAS making a law about religion,  then I am making a federal law regarding my position as a parts man every time I hand out my business cards. . . .  flawed logic involved in that thinking to say the least.

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I don’t believe in handing out condoms at school, but let me try to get it stopped and see how fast I get laughed out of court.

I believe in the creation of man by God, but that didn’t stop schools from forcing me to learn the so called “big bang theory”.

My rights are being violated! But who cares? I’m just a Christian.

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This young girl should not have felt pressured to take a Bible, but different people take things differently. The Gideons have never forced people to take Bibles and if a person fells pressured to take one, they can always drop it in the trash can later. Yes. other groups do pass out their literature in schools. My children were given stuff on Muslims, Devil Worship, Mormonism, Jehovah Witnesses, etc. Our nation was founded on Christian principles. Not all of our foundingfathers were Christians, but they used Christian principles to help guide them on a lots of parts of our Constitution. They seperation of Church and State said that the State will not set up a state run church. This is what was going on in Europe at that time. Many religions have many of the same principles that are found in the Bible. If we use the good things that we see as our guide, we will all treat each other better.

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Those would be horrible days on Earth ... if more people started believing in God.  People could possibly learn forgiveness instead of hate… they might think twice before gunning somone down.  Just Horrible!

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I don’t really understand the outcry about these sort of things.  Are these people afraid their children might read the book and suddenly believe in God?

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Here we go again. ACLU standing up for special interest. One little girl says she felt pressured so the rest of the kids suffer. I wonder if she will feel the same pressure when she is offered drugs. Sounds like she is at a good age to learn to stand up for herself and say no if something makes her feel uncomfortable.

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What does giving away free bibles have to do with the separation of church and state?

Our founding fathers did not want to replicate conditions in Europe where a church became all powerful based upon a monarch’s preferences.  I don’t think they could have predicted what that term now entails.

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Finally someone has recognized the importance of separation of church and state.  Our founding fathers included this profound holding because they deemed it was necessary in a democratic society.  It has absolutely nothing to do with being anti-christian.

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