Swine Flu Cases Overestimated?

Swine Flu H1n1  CBS News Exclusive: Study Of State Results Finds H1N1 Not As Prevalent As Feared.
by CBS News
Published: Tue, October 27, 2009 - 6:06 pm CST Last Updated: Tue, October 27, 2009 - 6:21 pm CST
WASHINGTON, D.C. - If you've been diagnosed "probable" or "presumed" 2009 H1N1 or "swine flu" in recent months, you may be surprised to know this: odds are you didn’t have H1N1 flu.

In fact, you probably didn’t have flu at all. That's according to state-by-state test results obtained in a three-month-long CBS News investigation.

The ramifications of this finding are important. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Britain's National Health Service, once you have H1N1 flu, you're immune from future outbreaks of the same virus. Those who think they've had H1N1 flu -- but haven't -- might mistakenly presume they're immune. As a result, they might skip taking a vaccine that could help them, and expose themselves to others with H1N1 flu under the mistaken belief they won't catch it. Parents might not keep sick children home from school, mistakenly believing they've already had H1N1 flu.

Why the uncertainty about who has and who hasn't had H1N1 flu?

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In late July, the CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases. The rationale given for the CDC guidance to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there's an epidemic?

Some public health officials privately disagreed with the decision to stop testing and counting, telling CBS News that continued tracking of this new and possibly changing virus was important because H1N1 has a different epidemiology, affects younger people more than seasonal flu and has been shown to have a higher case fatality rate than other flu virus strains.

CBS News learned that the decision to stop counting H1N1 flu cases was made so hastily that states weren't given the opportunity to provide input. Instead, on July 24, the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists, CSTE, issued the following notice to state public health officials on behalf of the CDC:

"Attached are the Q&As that will be posted on the CDC website tomorrow explaining why CDC is no longer reporting case counts for novel H1N1. CDC would have liked to have run these by you for input but unfortunately there was not enough time before these needed to be posted (emphasis added)."

When CDC did not provide us with the material, we filed a Freedom of Information request with the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). More than two months later, the request has not been fulfilled. We also asked CDC for state-by-state test results prior to halting of testing and tracking, but CDC was again, initially, unresponsive.


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Video above: A CBS News producer asks the director of the CDC, Dr. Thomas Frieden, for this information at a press conference on Sept. 19.

While we waited for CDC to provide the data, which it eventually did, we asked all 50 states for their statistics on state lab-confirmed H1N1 prior to the halt of individual testing and counting in July. The results reveal a pattern that surprised a number of health care professionals we consulted. The vast majority of cases were negative for H1N1 as well as seasonal flu, despite the fact that many states were specifically testing patients deemed to be most likely to have H1N1 flu, based on symptoms and risk factors, such as travel to Mexico.



It’s unknown what patients who tested negative for flu were actually afflicted with since the illness was not otherwise determined. Health experts say it’s assumed the patients had some sort of cold or upper respiratory infection that is just not influenza.

With most cases diagnosed solely on symptoms and risk factors, the H1N1 flu epidemic may seem worse than it is. For example, on Sept. 22, this alarming headline came from Georgetown University in Washington D.C.: "H1N1 Flu Infects Over 250 Georgetown Students."

H1N1 flu can be deadly and an outbreak of 250 students would be an especially troubling cluster. However, the number of sick students came not from lab-confirmed tests but from "estimates" made by counting "students who went to the Student Health Center with flu symptoms, students who called the H1N1 hotline or the Health Center's doctor-on-call, and students who went to the hospital's emergency room."

Without lab testing, it's impossible to know how many of the students actually had H1N1 flu. But the statistical trend indicates it was likely much fewer than 250.

CDC continues to monitor flu in general and H1N1 through "sentinels," which basically act as spot-checks to detect trends around the nation. But at least one state, California, has found value in tracking H1N1 flu in greater detail.

"What we are doing is much more detailed and expensive than what CDC wants," said Dr. Bela Matyas, California's Acting Chief of Emergency Preparedness and Response. "We're gathering data better to answer how severe is the illness. With CDC's fallback position, there are so many uncertainties with who's being counted, it's hard to know how much we're seeing is due to H1N1 flu rather than a mix of influenza diseases generally. We can tell that apart but they can't."

After our conversation with Dr. Matyas, public affairs officials with the California Department of Public Health emphasized to CBS News that they support CDC policy to stop counting individual cases, maintaining that the state has the resources to gather more specific testing data than the CDC.

Because of the uncertainties, the CDC advises even those who were told they had H1N1 to get vaccinated unless they had lab confirmation. "Persons who are uncertain about how they were diagnosed should get the 2009 H1N1 vaccine."

That's unwelcome news for a Marietta, Georgia mom whose two children were diagnosed with "probable" H1N1 flu over the summer. She hoped that would mean they wouldn't need the hastily developed H1N1 flu vaccine. However, since their cases were never confirmed with lab tests, the CDC advises they get the vaccine. "I wish they had tested and that I knew for sure whether they had it. I'm not anxious to give them an experimental vaccine if they don't need it."

Speaking to CBS' "60 Minutes," CDC Director Dr. Frieden said he has confidence that the vaccine will be safe and effective: "We're confident it will be effective we have every reason to believe that it will be safe."

However, the CDC recommendation for those who had "probable" or "presumed" H1N1 flu to go ahead and get vaccinated anyway means the relatively small proportion of those who actually did have H1N1 flu will be getting the vaccine unnecessarily. This exposes them to rare but significant side effects, such as paralysis from Guillain-Barre syndrome.

It also uses up vaccine, which is said to be in short supply. The CDC was hoping to have shipped 40 million doses by the end of October, but only about 30 million doses will be available this month.

The CDC did not response to questions from CBS News for this report.

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Mercury in and of itself is a well known neurotoxin, and as such has very strict limitations on allowable limits that occur in ground water naturally in some cases but high concentrations are mainly due to our dumping waste into lakes,rivers and the seas. Contaminating water as well as plant and animal life, which, as a strand in the web of life’s cycle, we humans knowingly damage ourselves in this process. Somehow justifying actions like these with the idea that polluted resources like water and air are only polluted “Over there, we don’t dump waste here so its not polluted here.” Are we unable to see that we live on a finite sattelite island in space, which happens to be a huge living organism in and of itself. Mecury administered to humans in any form can effect a chemical lobotomy,cause GBS as was mentioned in this piece and make one paralized, and of course there’s always that worst of the worst side effect that bugs everyone DEATH! Sorry for the rant at the pollution issue, but I feel if the govt limits safe levels in food and water then a shot, which is the most direct introduction should contain .....ZERO…....parts per billion because we can control with ease the level of any amount of any element we wish,however we aren’t doing the wishing, and the result of our own inactivty in lawmaking has gotten us this, a jim jones revival on a global scale. Both klling by virus and poison chemicals, a real bio chem attack on its own people. They want 80% global reduction dead

Codex is far more incidious than it would appear on its face. It was designed as a facade of standardizing the import/export of foods world wide via UN oversight. This set of regulations comes with numerous penalties and punitive damages levied upon every country not completely in compliance with its exacting design. The financial implications placed upon developing nations is far reaching and used to exploit the accused country’s natural resources for global usage, without fairly compensatng them for its use, in addton sanctions are imposed upon any nation unwilling to bend to the demands of the UN’s economic hitmen. See what watchdog and whistle blowers of the codex have to say about its implementation, and the catastrophic effect it will have upon every human on the planet that eats food. I am including a link by Dr.Rima Laibow MD and her professional opinion of ths program for world depopulation: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/07/03/26/eugenics-dr-rima-laibow-md
I am adding a video link as well,conduct due dilligence and look for those things that a proper investigation would require in order to prove , or disprove a position (facts only) assumptions, nor presumptions allowed.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634&ei=ssbpSubnL5TiqgLNlaWZDA&q=codex+alimentarius&hl=en#         
Please become informed, these policies,codes,regulations, and countless others are , by design ,control tools used against,not for humanity…Just do the lookin!

I did hear on the radio (mainstream) that the vaccine contains mercury. That in itself is concerning,as we have such strict guidelines for not using the “old-fashioned” mercury thermometers anymore. We worry about pregnant women eating too much seafood with high mercury content-yet we want to inject them with a vaccine that contains it? We have strict guidelines for disposal of flourescent light bulbs that contain mercury,and even access to the Poison Control Center in case of exposure or accidental ingestion of mercury-yet we are wanting to INJECT it? I have no clue what a “safe” level is, and honestly don’t know if other vaccines contain mercury or not.I do know that for a few children though, there have been reactions reported to even the standard vaccines that have led to vaccine induced autism. Whether there is a significant correlation there or not, I don’t know….

The Codex Alimentarius (Latin for “food code” or “food book”) is a collection of internationally recognized standards, codes of practice, guidelines and other recommendations relating to foods, food production and food safety. Its name derives from the Codex Alimentarius Austriacus.[1] Its texts are developed and maintained by the Codex Alimentarius Commission, a body that was established in 1963 by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO). The Commission’s main aims are stated as being to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair practices in the international food trade. The Codex Alimentarius is recognized by the World Trade Organization as an international reference point for the resolution of disputes concerning food safety and consumer protection.[2][3]


I’m not getting a sense of impending doom from this. In all honestly, vitamins and herbal supplements SHOULD be more closely monitored as to their consistency and warnings. Not all vitamins and minerals are safe to take in all situations,just like prescription and OTC meds aren’t safe for all people in all situations. To assume that because it is a vitamin or natural herbal supplement it IS safe, can be lethal for some.

the codex alimentarius is comming in december this yr. making vitamins and mineral supplements illegal. (The Project for the New American Century) organization said in its 2006 minutes that they plan on using forced vaccines,food,water and genome specfic disease as weapons and political tools.Please see this and research it. I cannot sit quietly and watch my fellow countrymen and women be destroyed by those who want control over everyone and every facet of our lives. Justr research it , anywhere, the library, the net whatever it takes do it. Find out for yourself please please please.You owe it to your children if not yourself.

here are some facts about the vaccines. they will contain Themerisol a mercury derrivitave.00 parts per billion is considered toxic waste by EPA.Vaccines will have 20-50ppb almost 1/4 of the toxic waste definition and they contain 25,000times the allowable levels of mercury in food and water. It is a well known neurotoxin and has been linked with autism especially with those who have mitochondrial disfunction,or blood brain barrier diseases. Has been linked to GBS as this report says.Baxter co. was granted the patent rights to vaccine 8 mos. prior to the swine flu being reported at all. This is equal to not only guessing the lotto #‘s but doing it 8 months before the drawing! The CDC,FDA,and WHO are not to be trusted, as there are records of a global population reduction plan of 80% in place. They intend to implement this via Codex Alimentarius, which starts in December this yr.in addition to using food as a weapon and genome specfic disease as a political tool(weapon). See the project for a new american century from 06’to see the agenda for the comming months. Please, my countrymen, see these for yourself to know what I am saying is true, see it for yourself and tell others the truth. Damn it I cannot sit idle and let these people do this to my own countrymen and women. I refuse to remain silent about it. I will endure all the name calling if I can show one person the truth. I don’t care what happens to me you all need to know this vital information. Please research it!!!

To call this CDC disinfo odd is an understatement but we are thinking as a result. As I said of yesterdays seminar, I was able to refute many claims of the CDC by this Dr. He didn’t say Dr. of what, but implied expertise, and when confronted with the plain old lies , he had no real rebuttal in defence. As for Carl’s statement , well Carl you are one of a few that actually get’s it. Big pharma will get it too when the profits come rolling in after Americans have bought into a scare tactic and the implied shortages of vaccine, of which there is none.We get exactly what we deserve if we do not execute our own due dilligence. We are the ones responsible for our own safety and security and we must participate in our own freedom, and quest for truth. So far we have been mislead,lied to ignored and marginalized to the point of non-existance. If we don’t take action now we will surely settle for nothing later. Meaning we will settle for anything offered to us by big brother and the holding company. The thing feared by them the most is an informed and educated population who are bent on and insist upon having truth,disclosure,visibility in all things pertaining to the rights and freedoms afforded to us by our creator, not by government.This leads to a true (Consensus Reality)<[define this] operating from the truth.Americans have always had a fierce independence and an unquenchable thirst for freedom,justice& recourse&remedy;.It is my greatest desire that Americans will wake soon peace!

THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!But if it’s deemed safe I’d rather not take any chances with the little ones.As with any out break of disease only two groups of people make money out of it,The pharmaceutical companies and the undertakers.The rest of us lose.

JMO-but this should be a huge wake-up call to the media and to consumers. I,as a nurse,questioned not testing to confirm diagnosis when that started. Without testing,you can’t track and record relevant and accurate data. The president is calling this a “national epidemic.” National epidemic of WHAT? Late summer/fall allergies and upper respiratory infections? Bronchitis? Regular flu or H1N1 flu? No one knows,since testing isn’t being done and the government has people scared and running like chickens with their heads cut off to get this “life-saving” vaccination. I find it somewhat amusing too,that California, a bankrupt state is willing to commit resources to further testing of this,yet the CDC isn’t? The CDC and HHS are unwilling to share their data? Why? This is all very odd, to say the least.

yesterday I attended a confrence held at PJC in Milton where a Dr. from the state board of health presented a CDC mandated power point presentation. I was given opportunity to have Q&A session after . I caught this Dr. lying to the folks in attendance and when confronted with this he simply dismissed it as lacking sources and irrevelant. I gave credible sources and addressed his misinformation as lacking merit and accuracy and contradicted itsself on its face. I was the only one interviewed by the press as the Dr. beat a hasty retreat from the building. These vaccines are untested,dangerous and the manufacturers are held harmless from sufferring any liability from harm caused by their use by special legislation, why? So you the sheep have no access to remedy and recourse from being injured by their desire for profit and control. Please wake up countrymen, please see what is going on before your very eyes. Your very lives and the lives of your posterity and your freedom depend on it. American Idol be damned WAKE NOW! No one is going to ensure your freedom but you, you must be willing to be educated and act on the information and the TRUTH. You!

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