Children who just plain do not want to be controlled learn they can call police spin tales or stretch the truth to munipulate their parents, but usually in these extreme cases there are underlying mental problems that cause this behavior.  I have one wild one out of four, two older one younger that would never dream of acting anything like the wild one.

thank God for the ignore member option! In alabama child abuse is as follows:
Being struck with belt or paddle then added in parentheses spanking is usually not considered abuse. Can not cause excessive physical pain?
Calling a child names that are really mean.
Telling them they are worthless, can’t do nothing right etc.
Punching and kicking.
Biting that leaves a mark or breaks the skin. Being knocked into walls or to the floor.
or anything that causes excessive pain or emotional pain.
I do not see where a flying piece of pizza causes excessive pain or emotional pain. Even if some things were said that maybe shouldn’t be said I did not witness it nor did the police it’s more about if comments are continuously used not just one isolated incident.  Everyone loses their cool sometimes.

I’m forwarding this to my parents, who should be thankful they are not in prison. If this silliness counts as “felony child abuse” my parents would definitely be doing hard time!

By the way, I love my parents and they did a great job of raising me. Since AGE is not given, but we know the girl is old enough to have a computer…I’m guessing family is sitting down for dinner, and preteen to teenage girl won’t quit sexting on myspace for one minute to eat dinner with the family, so dad is all like “then eat your d*mn dinner in there, you stupid ****” and threw her dinner at her. The End.

I am no expert by far, but I cant tell you how many times mine told a dramatic story or just simply believed her account of events were true, when they never unfolded that way. It was scary!

It made me think that she had some DEEP mental illness other than the lying.
I was finally able to back off the DHR, the school and even my own family members, once I was able to PROVE to them that she was just a child that didn’t like authority and boundaries.

Once she went to LIVE WITH 2 different family members and they kicked her out or she just left. Once DHR saw the truth and her school counselors witnessed things for themselves (the same ones willing to crucify me) but for the longest…I WAS the evil one in peoples eyes.

Little did they know!!!

This behavior began around 14 and lasted until she was 19 almost 20 but she slowly started the descent and now….she will be 21 in DEC. and she is in college and is training to be a flight nurse.

So yes it’s hard and yes they grow up to be adults, but even then….I was still “up in her life” and just last week we had a discussion with her 17 year old sister”...and she told her…“don’t mess up like I almost did, if it wasn’t for mama I wouldn’t be where I am right now”

So hold on tight, don’t give up, stay tough and fight…because if you love her, then your fight has only just begun!

Yours are on the news Kat!  Kat, perhaps if you refrained from defending the adult (father) who obviously acts like a child, you may gain some respect from your daughter.  Very well spoken Krickett.

The police are just going by what she said and it was all a lie. so just keep taking care of yours and forget about mine rolltide33.

That is true.. but you would not believe what kids pull off elsewhere, but not at home. I just live by the rule “If you aren’t all up in your kids lives someone else will be”

Privacy and all that other BS that they whine about is no longer on the table when you are screwing up. 

Sometimes I compare it to an exorcism, the more you try, the more violent and harder it becomes, but just like that demon….enough attempts….they will finally give up….you just have to be stronger than them for their own good.

It’s hard but don’t give up until you win this battle.

“Children, All we can do is love them and try to keep them safe.” 

  There is a lot more to child rendering than that.  Starts with controlling your household.  If you can’t control your children’s behaviour in your own home, be very afraid of what they may be doing outside the home.

Krickkett,
We did the in need of supervision thing, she ran again, shw was ordered to go to a program for at risk teens but it was right at a two month wait to get her in.  She kept leaving, we are the police chase her down and they just say take her home bring her to the juv. prob. off. in the morning. We tell them she will just leave again, they tell us unofficially do whatever it takes to keep her from leaving.Note that it is unofficail and she has already made claims of abuse She fights, she kicks, tries to run says she is going to kill us in our sleep. They say until she commits a violent crime they can’t send her to juv. den.(thanks to alabama legislators)Finally she is in the program or is suppose to be. They had her staying with her aunt and she ran again then morning she was to go to program so thesheriff’s dept. took her down to the crisis center she had to go to for a day before she could go to the program. I have not got a call confirming she is there.  I am suppose to be contacted and go there within 48 hours of intake she was suppose to be transfered from crisis center to program yesterday, these are not detention facilities so she may take off again, we are so afraid she is going to wind up raped or killed or get to this man and.this man is suppose to be under investagation, not the only one he has been talking to telling them they are special. Hopefully soon they will do something with him. Children, All we can do is love them and try to keep them safe.

Also, do some research…call your local crisis center or dept of mental health and ask her to be put under a CHINS petition (Child in need of supervision) this will involve the court, she will go before a judge. It helped my daughter once she saw I meant business. Hopefully it will help yours.

Good luck