Undocumented TK Workers Talk To News Five

Thyssenkrupp Immigration  Who is being hired in Calvert? Could the largest private project in United States history be keeping an even bigger secret?
by Diana Lucio
Published: Mon, May 18, 2009 - 7:33 pm CST Last Updated: Mon, May 18, 2009 - 10:26 pm CST
When state and local leaders announced ThyssenKrupp chose Mobile County as the site of its new multi-billion dollar steel mill, they touted the 30,000 construction jobs the plant would create.
Two years later, a local labor union claims many of the construction workers are not local or legal. Could the largest private project in U.S. history be keeping an even bigger secret?

With 811 million dollars worth of state and local incentives, construction on the steel mill is well under way. But Alabamians aren't the only ones getting work.
"Some of the larger contractors at ThyssenKrupp hired to build their facility are using out of state workers and they're using in some cases illegal workers,"Said Donnie Adams with the Mobile-Pensacola Building and Construction Trades Council.
Adams says Alabamians don't stand a chance of getting jobs over undocumented workers. "It's cheaper no benefits and how can you compete against something like that? If you're a local contractor and you're bidding to get somebody that's bringing these people in, it's like slave labor,"Said Adams.

During our trip to T.K. we stop at the BP Service Station about a half a block down from the site. We run into two guys in a truck wearing ThyssenKrupp orientation badges. We talk to Rafael Morales who tells us he came from Mexico 6 years ago to work. "The company that we came from is in North Carolina. They don't ask for anything because they're a small company and from that company they send the paperwork and I don't know how they do it. But they do all the work,"Said Morales.
"We don't hold these Hispanics and people from out of state, they're just doing a job they've been hired to do. We hold the people who hired them responsible,"Said Adams. Morales tells us he got work through Collins Reinforcing.
We get Carl Collins of Collins Reinforcing on the phone.
Lucio:"Where are you based out of? Collins: "Based out of North Carolina. Lucio:"And where are the majority of your workers coming from?" Collins: "They come from all over." Lucio: "Do you employ any who have come from mexico to work?" Collins:"All my guys came from either Virginia, Georgia or Florida."

"If they're here working they've got homes somewhere else and they're sending the money back there to pay mortgages and everything, they're not spending it here. I mean the bulk of their money is going back to where they came from so we're not getting the bang for the buck,"Said Adams.
Morales says he gets paid under the table up to 20 dollars an hour, plus rent.
Lucio:"And you don't have a Visa?" Morales:"I'm just now making arrangements for that." Lucio: "But right now you don't have a Visa?
Morales: "Right now, no I still don't." Lucio: "Or legal documentation?" Morales: "No. I'm making arrangements for that too."

ThyssenKrupp declined to talk with us on camera but they did email us this statement,"each individual contractor is legally responsible for their immigration compliance in the hiring of their employees." It goes on to say the company runs audits and sends letters reminding their contractors to comply with immigration laws and keep documentation proving legal status on file.
After several attempts we finally get a ThyssenKrupp spokeswoman Mary Mullins on the phone.
Lucio:"you mentioned you send letters to each contractor reminding them. When was the last time you did that?" Mullins: "I don't know that at this time Diana." Lucio: "When was the last time you audited your contractors?" Mullins:"I'll have to check with our other department heads on that."

Mobile County Commissioner Mike Dean is supporting a joint effort between the Mobile County Commission and the City Council to try and get information on T.K.'s labor practices.
In a letter sent to T.K. on April 17th, County Commissioner Merceria Ludgood recommends the company require all its contractors to use E-Verify to check their employees legal documents.
T.K. says the federal electronic system is already used by contractors on a voluntary basis. But local leaders are determined to make it a requirement.
"We as elected officials is got to stand behind the law and the law says that there is proper practices and we want that E-Verify in place. That's something we want...that's something they're going to give us,"Said Commissioner Dean.

Dean says elected officials plan to randomly visit ThyssenKrupp and make scheduled visits to check up on things. He says while there is no written language requiring companies like T.K. to hire locally, they're going to look into it with future projects. Until someone is held accountable undocumented workers are likely going to keep getting jobs.

Members of the Mobile-Pensacola Construction Trades Council Plan to protest at the site this week.
According to officials with Immigration Customs Enforcement, border patrol agents caught about a dozen illegal immigrants earlier this year.
They claimed to work at the steel mill.
ICE says they haven't done any raids at T.K. because they would need substantial evidence first.
We plan to show them our footage. We'll keep you posted.
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Maybe if they were not getting paid at all…all of you rednecks would be happy. Then they would be just like the other foreigners from so long ago that built the south for a bunch of lazy southerners. Yes….maybe if you had them calling you master, then everything would be good in your eyes. It’s sad that the only ones who will actually get up in the morning, work in the freezing cold or sweltering heat, are the illegals. If you want a job….put down the stupid picket signs and apply for one, but first you will need to get the drugs out of your system.

The truth in metaphorical terms:
Okay,lets say you go McDonald(the local government) so you can get some fries(some answers).When you get your fries(answers)they are cold and taste no good.So, you ask the cashier(the congress)for help.He’s no help to you,so you ask for the manager(the president)for some new fries(answers).But,no matter how cold the fries(answers)are,you never see the “franchise owner”.That’s who’s really in charge of the operation.That’s were are the orders come from.That’s why everything is set up the way it is here.That’s what put us in this state.Not illegals.Not ThyssenKrupp.

Well since the state taxpayers are footing the bill to the tune of 1 billion dollars for these construction and supposedly permanent jobs,we are not getting these jobs for free.We should expect more from the people who negotiate contracts and agreements for the taxpayers and to see that they produce for the people paying the bill.Wait4me,I didn’t get exactly what jillian meant either other than a generic condemnation of those that don’t like illegal aliens taking the jobs that we bought and paid for.I’m all for TK to get up and running and being prosperous,as long as the bill payers get their money’s worth and that’s not happening at this time.This is just my opinion from what I’ve seen and read so far on the subject and I’m certain there are others.

I meant wait in the literal sense, not referring to you WAIT4ME.

wait, what again are we talking about here? I was specifically talking about the situation at TK. Some of you guys need to get back on subject.

I agree Carl, I was just wondering what Jullians truth is?

I’ve always heard the truth was"THERE AIN’T NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH”.Somebody,some where has to get the bill and it’s us.

OK, I give up whats the truth?

Yes,this is where I’m from,Alabama.These are the people I call my neighbors.Wow,I wonder when western society will move forward…..maybe never!The blind are leading the blind.When are you gonna wake up and smell the Starbucks!!!! They(the elitists)have got you right where they want you.Keep watching the news,keep hating on illegals and foreign contractors or what ever else it takes to move your focus off the truth.How unfortunate it is to see so many people thriving on blinded hatred.This is what will always hold us back from true progress.

NO ONE THAT LIVES NEAR OR AROUND MT. VERNON, CALVERT OR ANYOTHER SURROUNDING TOWN WANTS TO WORK.  I KNOW THIS FIRST HAND.  THEY GET TO MANY GOVERNMENT BENEFITS.  THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THEMSELVES.  I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED WHERE THEY WOULD FIND ALL THESE PEOPLE.  MOST OF THE LOCALS CAN’T PASS DRUG TEST ANYWAY.

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